Elitist Jerks Weekly Recap 2/10/12

Every Friday Tabana brings you the latest discussions straight from the Elitist Jerks forums with a recap of what was discussed and links to the full posts so you can stay on top of the latest in hunter theorycrafting.

Beast Mastery Guide Updated for Patch 4.3.2 2/3/12

In the Beast Mastery thread, Nooska wrote, “OP updated with the buff to AotH in 4.3.2 under the OwN description. I remember being poked about another place I wrote something about it last time, but I can’t find it – I think I edited the area to not require updating in the future though.”

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Noxious Sting Bug 2/9/12

In the Survival thread, Flexal wrote, “There seems to be a rather large bug concerning Noxious Stings when 2 survival hunters are in the same raid. I originally saw this mentioned on the MMO-Champion forums so decided to test it on target dummies to confirm. The issue is that only 1 survival hunter can benefit from the 10% damage increase from Noxious Stings at one time and it is dependent on who manually cast the last serpent sting.

The following test was done with all gear unequipped and using Weathered Crossbow for the least amount of variance possible (numbers below only vary 1-2 damage).
Both using the following glyphs: Explosive, Kill Shot, Arcane. No pets or external buffs.

[Base]
[02:05:34.326] Flexal Auto Shot Training Dummy 1 (O: 644)
[02:05:34.445] Hunet Auto Shot Training Dummy 1 (O: 642)

[Flexal applies Sting]
[02:05:35.301] Flexal Improved Serpent Sting Training Dummy 1 (O: 1278)
[02:05:36.452] Flexal Auto Shot Training Dummy 1 (O: 709)
[02:05:36.751] Hunet Auto Shot Training Dummy 1 (O: 643)
[02:05:38.224] Flexal Serpent Sting Training Dummy 1 (O: 936)

[Hunet applies Sting while Flexal's sting is still active]
[02:06:39.324] Hunet Improved Serpent Sting Training Dummy *1* (O: 3832)
[02:06:39.857] Hunet Auto Shot Training Dummy 1 (O: 708)
[02:06:40.518] Flexal Auto Shot Training Dummy 1 (O: 645)
[02:06:40.944] Hunet Serpent Sting Training Dummy 1 (O: 935)
[02:06:41.251] Flexal Serpent Sting Training Dummy 1 (O: 851)

Cobra shot refreshing of sting has no effect on who gets the damage increase, it is only based on who applied the last manual sting.

Rivkah replied, “That sounds like a fairly serious bug. It would also be worth testing if a non-SV hunter applies their sting after the SV hunter, would that also interfere with the benefit of noxious stings? Also, did you test if multishot applying the sting with serpent spread affected how it worked?”

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Prepotting 2/9/12

In the Hunter DPS Analyzer thread, Goldengiff wrote, “I was looking around at the settings and could not tell if pre-potting is enabled by default or if it’s included at all in the sim. Could someone point me in the right direction.”

Rivkah replied, “There is no current support for prepotting. I’ve considered adding it but I’m not sure exactly how many seconds to support it for (since timing on prepotting varies). I’ll see if I can make some time this weekend to add it (perhaps 2 seconds off the duration seems appropriate), but keep in mind that it still will only be supported as averaged over the course of the fight.”

Goldengiff replied, ” On a patchwerk style fight 1-2 seconds is reasonable. Averaging it over the fight is fine, and honestly probably isn’t that big a deal to add since it’s a marginal increase, I was just wondering if I had missed the setting.”

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Algalon the Observer Attempts 2/7/12

In the Soloing Old Instances for Fun and Profit thread, Caribald wrote, “Currently attempting no other than Algalon the Observer. Best try was somewhere between 30 and 40%, and once I got him to 40% where I actually ate a Big Bang (too early Intervene, got taken by an arcane barrage).

It’s really weird though, because sometimes the Living Constellations seem to despawn randomly, other times they just don’t shoot as often – then one attempt, they nuked me so hard I dropped down to 0 hp without taking any Big Bangs or melee hits from Algalon… I really hope to get this one down soon as it [hasn't] been done by ANYONE, not just hunters.

Caribald later added, “Algalon on 15% twice. Last time I had really bad dps though, and the 15% was at enrage. But that was the only time I actually reached the enrage, so that’s ok I guess. MUCH harder than XT, and requires more gear (XT should be easy now since you can probably survive tantrums with 1 intervene using deterrence for 30% damage reduction)”

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Festergut (10N) soloed 2/7/12

In the Soloing Old Instances for Fun and Profit thread, Dragoran wrote, “Just downed Festergut (10N), very very tough fight. [...]”

I have used 2 turtles and a tank-specced cat (with heart of the phoenix) for the fight. All the point is that you only have 5 minutes to make more than 9.400K damage, which is too high for me.

I had to be the target of the Gastric bloat (+10% damage, stack-able, applicable to the tank) as often as possible. I used the 2 turtles at first (intervene and roar of sacrifice for when I was “tanking”) and a ferocity pet for the last 30s. I killed him 2s after his berserk, with many tries at 2-3% and a lot more before… Understanding when to taunt took me a lot of time and was very frustrating, like it was for Marrowgar.

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Freya +3 (Knock, Knock, Knock on Wood) Soloed 2/9/12

In the Soloing Old Instances for Fun and Profit thread, Caribald announced soloing Freya +3 Elders for the Knock, Knock, Knock on Wood achievement:

I did manage to kill Freya+3 finally. Hunter soloing: Caribald vs Freya HM: Knock, Knock, Knock on Wood | World first hunter solo

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